May 2014 11 Years on the Road - WallaceHuo (霍建华) - For International Fans

Wallace Huo: 11 Years on the Road

BQ Weekly, May 2014

“I’m a lonely person by nature”

Wallace Huo is an exception because although he has few publicity promotions and interviews, he is highly popular.  After finishing all his Perfect Couple promotions, Wallace Huo went back to Hengdian to continue filming. In the last few years his filming has been intense. Often he goes from one set to the next. To him, his work is about acting. You seldom see him in other public events.


Producer = Life producer

The reason to be a producer for Perfect Couple is because he wanted to act in a comedy drama. Because of his handsome appearance producers seldom ask him to take up a comedy drama. The majority of the scripts are love and tragedy related. So he wanted to give himself a chance. After such desire, the operation of Perfect Couple came to his mind.

Wallace said: “I thought the script has a complete story. It has humour and affection. From a commercial standard point it has all the elements. So I wanted to try. As such we began: including finding a director. I worked together with the team in coming up with the theme songs for this drama.”

Wallace spoke frankly that you need both brains and brawn as a producer. But the things he cared most weren't macro things such as investment, but more related to those micro things such as moving tables, moving stages, removing trashes, fixing schedules or arranging the extras. “It’s better to call it a life producer, responsible for the moods of casts and crew members.”

Because he is an actor he cares a lot for artistes. “If any artiste worked overtime, I would explain to him/her why. To tell them it is because of the stage setting, we must finish today.” Sometimes to accommodate other artistes, he put his takes to the last.

Although it’s hard to produce a drama, Wallace still enjoys it and is excited about it. He said: “I feel everything is still unknown. I’m still searching. Of course I hope I can find a good start. I don’t know what will happen in the future. But if the audiences like my first project of course I’ll be happy. It’s my hard work after all. With praises and support from the audiences we can make a big step forward. If the audiences don’t like it much I’ll humbly accept it and work harder next time.”

Coincidently Wallace witnessed the first project of two actresses. On is Fang Bingbing’s “Snow Rouge” and the other one is Ruby Lin’s “Qing Shi Huang Fei”. He was a main cast in these two dramas. “They are smart actresses. I’ve learnt a lot from them.” We asked him what is the biggest gain from being a producer. He frankly said being in other people’s shoes. “My mindset isn’t about to just finishing my part. From the experience I’ve learn how to tribute and sacrifice. To me it’s a breakthrough.”

Although he only acted as a first time producer, Wallace’s studio has been long existed. This is also his wish. “Because relatively I like freedom. I don’t want to sign with a company. They design what I need to do. I relatively like to do things as I wish. I take up plays I prefer to do. I can work with any director and can choose any theme. I hope I can make my own decisions.”

No longer has the idol baggage

Perfect Couple also has fulfilled Wallace’s other wish: he can show his funny side. In the drama not only he was responsible to stay pretty, his cross dressing was funny. He was funny both on screen and off screen. Even old friend Tang Yan was surprised because he has become more talkative and knows how to make people laugh. Wallace said: “I've came to learn that work isn’t about making a living, it is part of a living. So I should stay happy. I only want to happily do my acting work. I used to be shy, introvert and proud. I had thin skin. Now when I’m at work I don’t care much about my image. If the script requires I can do anything. Because this is my work and so there is nothing that should be hold back. In this area I’m quite open-minded.”

Previously Wallace quite rejected people who said he’s an idol, things such as he only has a good face. But now he isn't concerned much about people’s comments. He no longer has the idol baggage. But one detail which is quite interesting is that when he was viewed as an idol he didn’t wear makeup when filming. Now he doesn’t have the idol baggage he wants to look a bit prettier. He also starts to take care of his skin and look into the mirror. Carrying a mirror with him never happened before. “Why the change?” I asked.

“I don’t know why… maybe I love myself more and respect the audience.” He felt the audience put him in a framed box before. Actually everything is possible for a person. But it takes a long time to understand your own self and to gradually prove it to the people .

The simpler the better for love affection

“I worked in Africa and especially liked Wallace’s Emerald on the Roof. From it I saw the happiness of finding someone who loves me. I was entangled between decisions at that time. Should I stay with someone who loved me or someone I loved…. Under the influence of this drama I chose the person who loved me. We got married and we’ve lived happily ever after.” The person who said this is his fan.

Although he brought a romance to a happy ending, he himself is still single. For many years he has been trying to protect his private life. He seldom talks about it publicly. This makes people even more interested in his love relationship.

“I can’t tell. I can’t guarantee. Just live by destiny. I want to do whatever I must do first. I’m not in a hurry for this.” Will he reject love?

“I won’t. It will come naturally. At the current stage I only fall in love with my scripts. I can have a lot of imagination in my work. Many fictitious conditions and stories. I can enjoy everything that happens in the plays. I think I’m happy this way.”

After taking part in many romance dramas, Wallace Huo expects in real life a simple love relationship. The girl he likes is also simple. He hopes his partner can chat with him, dine with him and can listen to him while he talks.

“It’s hard to find.” He shook his head, appearing a bit helpless. “Of course it is easy to find someone to chat with you. But to find someone who shares the same line of thinking, principles and concepts is difficult. People have different secular ideas. But our value position must be on the same page. If the value position isn’t the same, it’s hard to be friends, let alone to be partners.”


Hope to keep a private life

BQ: You seldom have interviews and promotions. Is it because you don’t have time or you are not willing to socialize with other people?

WH: Not really. After I finished a play I would see the media when it is about to air. I would introduce to people what  we had filmed, what role I played. It’s only when is not work related that I seldom turned up publicly. I don’t want to expose myself too much. Because if you do you need to talk a lot and tell people what kind of a person you are. I feel strange about it. I hope to say that after each play and each character I’ll advance a step further. People will see I’m advancing. I like to interact this way with people.

BQ: Will you talk less when you need to communicate?

WH: I’m quite talkative. This is why I’m not willing to show up too much. I’m afraid I might trouble people too much. I used to be introverted and afraid of people might reject me. People found me elegant as a result of this. Actually I didn’t know how to communicate with people. I also don’t want to please people for my advantage.”

BQ: Were you like this when you were little?

WH: Always like this when I was little. Yes. I’ve never been good with inter-personal relationships.

BQ: I heard that after Swordsman you’re more willing to share with people. You’ve also become more talkative.

WH: Better than before. I don’t know why. Probably because I’m more mature I try to share with people more. But I also hope to reserve time for my private life.

BQ: Last year you went to an university for a talk show. I was completely impressed by it because in my mind you’re a quiet person.

WH: Yes. I didn’t expect it either. I quite enjoyed it this way because the feeling is quite special. I didn’t know I could share my life and work experience with the students. Because I’m an actor I can’t expose myself too much like a singer. They’re relaxed an opened. I become nervous in front of people. I didn’t know what happened that day. When I received the invitation from the university I accepted it without thinking twice. I only shared my journey of heart and some thoughts. It turned the result wasn’t bad at all. People quite accepted it.

BQ: Do you remember how long did you talk?

WH: About 2 hours. I basically seldom have such a chance. I don’t even interact much with my fans, let alone the students. I feel that’s quite meaningful. I hope after I’ve accumulated more life experience and more things from acting I can tell them new things.

BQ: Actually it can be a happy thing to open up and share with people.

WH: Yes. No one talks with me anyway in normal days. So I think it was quite a good chance to share with them.

Can I survive without a weibo account?

BQ: Do you think you’re typical Capricorn? Capricorn people generally don’t like to expose their love relationships. Also they tend to be lonely.

WH: Yes. I’m lonely by nature. I don’t have many friends. Only a few close friends. Very few. I always feel lonely. This is my personality.

BQ: Do you want to make a  change?

WH: No. I quite enjoy it this way. Conceptually I think a person comes alone and goes alone. In principle I feel any person is alone. It depends on how you view this loneliness. I like to drive around myself. At work there are many people already. I spend time with over 100 people each day. It’s very noisy and confused. So in personal life I want something simple. Besides I don’t like noisiness.”

BQ: Many people have encouraged or persuade you to open a weibo, but you have refused.

WH: When dramas were about to air some producers asked me to open a weibo account to do some promotions. But I think promotions have nothing to do with opening a weibo account. I don’t understand this. They said I won’t survive if I don’t promo myself. But I don’t think so. I don’t feel like I must do something because everyone else does. Everyone has their own way of survival. I don’t have to follow everyone else’s footstep to survive. I have my own survival way.

BQ: This quite matches your independent personality. Quite like Linghu Chong, opting for freedom, right?

WH: Yes. I’m quite persistent in this. I feel many fans like me but I don’t really have to be close to them and please them every day by posting a picture of myself. It’s enough to watch my shows. No need to go that far. I’ll feel I don’t have any value any more. Do you understand? Right. It’s enough to show you my plays. I hope I can save my private life in my own space.

BQ: But I heard you also are merry when you’re with your friends.

WH: Yes, of course. I’m totally open with close friends. I make any jokes to make them laugh.

BQ: Do you often hear that after going to new set, people say that they found you hard to get along but after a while you turned out to be easy going?

WH: Yes. I don’t know why I give people a distance feeling. People who know me find me  a quite funny and humorous person. I also like to laugh at myself to make people happy.

BQ: Seems like you have a sacrificial spirit?

WH: I think that isn’t bad. Not too many dare to do so. People have strong self-esteem. It won’t bother me much. Besides, it is a laugh at myself to ease the atmosphere. For instance a young actor may tell me that he is nervous. So I had an NG. He would become more relax because even I had NG why couldn’t he. People can relax this way. I hope we can create a harmonic atmosphere at work. Sometimes I would put myself down to make people feel at ease.

Wish to be an actor in the next life

BQ: To recap your career after 11 years, what will be your summary?

WH: Muddleheaded.  I have been searching and still am. After 11 years I still don’t understand this industry. But I understand how to build a foundation as an actor. I still have many things to learn. I’ve accumulated some experience. I won’t panic when I face difficulties. This experience is valuable.

BQ: Right. I feel it is absolutely necessary in every stage of life. You’ll get some quality in each stage. Which stage do you like best?

WH: Strictly speaking I feel the current stage is quite good. I’m more mature. I was more naive before. I was stubborn in things I did. I didn’t care what people saw and thought about me. I’m now more thoughtful in my thinking. But I still have my ego. Probably this is my personality. It’s difficult to change. Actually my personal character is quite different from those on screen.

BQ: From your stage at 20's, what do you want to keep or carry on?

WH: I wasn’t afraid of anything at that time. I dared to take risks. Not afraid of being tired, not afraid of getting hurt, and not afraid of hard work. I wasn’t afraid of anything.

BQ: That’s why you took on seven dramas within one year?

WH: Yes. I wasn’t afraid of anything. Now I’m afraid of everything. This is quite scary.

BQ: If they ask you to film 7 dramas within one year, will you definitely say no?

WH: Definitely no. Definitely no. Even if there are really good scripts. I can only pick 3 to film each year. I wasn’t afraid of hard working at that time. Not afraid of fatigue. Could stand no personal space. But for a very long time I was extremely tired.

BQ: Right. This includes when you started your career you worked as an assistant for a show. Actually it helped you to be a producer.

WH: Yes. I’m more familiar with the working environment. I respect people. Put myself in their shoes.

BQ: If you could start all over, would you want to erase that part?

WH: I don’t want to erase it. It’s quite good actually. I don’t know what will happen in the future. But I think I’m good in this life. If I could make a choice I hope I could be an actor next life. I feel my life is more colourful. Otherwise, I’m someone without a goal. I’ve learn a lot from acting, such as my life experience. I’ve learn everything from acting, not from books. Books haven’t taught me much. All my gains have come from my work.


出道11年,还在路上

“我是个天生孤独的人”

宣传和采访做的都不多,却有着超高的人气,霍建华算是一个特例。结束在北京《金玉良缘》的宣传工作,霍建华就赶往横店继续拍戏,这几年他拍戏的频率很高,经常出了一个剧组,就进了下一个剧组。对他来说,他的工作就是拍戏,很少能在其他各种活动上看到他的身影。

出品人 = 生活制片

之所以做《金玉良缘》的出品人,是因为霍建华想要演喜剧,但帅气的外表使得制片方很少想到让他挑战喜剧,大都让他扮帅演爱情戏悲情戏,于是他只能自己给自己机会,就有了操作《金玉良缘》的念头。

霍建华说:“我觉得这个剧本的元素挺全的,有轻松诙谐幽默,有情感,从商业上来看是很完整的一个剧本,所以就想试试看吧。于是就开始谈,包括找导演,包括这次的主题歌也是我跟团队们一起想的点子。”

霍建华坦言,“出品人”是个很劳神的活儿,不过他劳神的不是那些诸如找投资等等大事,而是那些琐碎的小事,包括搬桌子、搬道具、捡垃圾、催场、管群众演员等等。“与其说我是出品人,不如说其实是生活制片,负责管理大家的情绪。”

因为他自己是演员,所以很为演员着想,“如果哪个演员的拍摄超时了,我要过去跟人家解释,告诉因为场景的关系,必须要今天拍完。”有时候,为了照顾其他演员,他甚至要求把自己的戏份放到最后拍。

虽然做一个电视剧的过程很辛苦,但霍建华乐此不疲,甚至很兴奋。他说:“我觉得一切都还是未知数,我也在摸索,当然我希望第一部是一个很好的开始,之后怎么样,我也不敢讲。但是如果第一部观众喜欢的话,我当然是开心的,因为毕竟我付出了嘛。有了观众的赞同和鼓励,我们才能再往前进一步,如果观众觉得不够好,我会虚心接受,再继续努力。”

说来也很巧,霍建华还见证过两个女演员作为出品人的第一部作品,一个是范冰冰的《胭脂雪》,一个是林心如的《倾世皇妃》,他正好是这两部剧的主演。“她们都是聪明的女演员,从她们身上也学到很多东西。”

问到这次做出品人最大的收获?霍建华坦言是学会了换位思考。“不再是演好自己的戏就行的演员思维,从各种历练中学会了去奉献、牺牲自己,这对我来说是蛮大的一个突破。”

虽然是第一次做出品人,但是霍建华成立自己的工作室有一段时间了,这也一直是他的愿望。“因为我这人比较喜欢自由,我不喜欢签到某一个公司以后,他们规定我做什么。我比较喜欢随我的性去做,就是说我想拍什么戏,我想跟哪一个导演合作,我想拍哪个题材,我希望自己可以决定的。”

早就没了偶像包袱

《金玉良缘》还圆了霍建华一个愿望,就是发挥了他搞笑的一面,戏里他不仅负责貌美如花还负责插科打诨,其男扮女装的造型让人捧腹。戏里欢乐的霍建华戏外也很热闹,这让老朋友唐嫣都有些诧异,为什么他会变得话这么多,会去取悦别人逗人家开心。 霍建华说:“我越来越觉得工作不只是为了生活,它是生活的一部分,所以要很快乐。我只是想快乐地做好演员的工作,以前害羞内敛要面子,脸皮很薄,现在我拍戏的时候,可以不计任何的形象,只要剧情需要,我什么都可以做。因为这是我的工作,所以我觉得没有什么不好意思的,这方面我是比较放得开的。”

以前霍建华会比较排斥人家说他是偶像演员,好像他只有脸蛋而已,但是现在他不会在意别人怎么评价,早就没了偶像包袱。 有一个细节挺有意思的——别人说他是偶像时,其实他拍戏连妆都不化。现在没了偶像包袱,相反他倒爱漂亮一点,也会做一些皮肤护理,拍戏前会照下镜子,以前随身带镜子这种事根本不会发生在他身上。 “为什么有这种变化?”我问。

“我也不太清楚……可能是更爱自己也更尊重观众了吧。”他觉得以前是被观众给框住了,其实每个人都有很多可能性,但是这个认识的时间是比较漫长的,要慢慢去证明给大家看。

感情简单随缘就好

“我那时在非洲工作,特别喜欢霍建华演的《屋顶上的绿宝石》那部剧,从这个戏我看到找一个爱自己的人的幸福。当时我正面临自己情感选择的纠结,是找一个爱自己的人还是找一个自己爱的人……后来受了这个戏的影响,我选择了爱我的人。我们结婚到现在很幸福。” 说这话的人,是霍建华的粉丝。

尽管成人之美,但生活中的霍建华还孑然一身。多年来他一直对自己的私生活保护有加,很少在访问中过多提及,让人越发好奇他的情感何时有归属。

“这个不敢说,也不能保证,反正随缘吧。要先把该做的做好,自己个人的事情我觉得不着急。” 会排斥“因戏生情”吗?

“不排斥,自然发生的都好。现阶段,我像在跟剧本谈恋爱,我们的工作是可以有很多的幻想嘛,很多虚拟的环境,很多虚拟的剧情,我可以去享受在这个剧情里面所发生的一切的事情,我觉得这样也很快乐。”

拍了很多浪漫的戏,生活中的霍建华倒期待自己的爱情简简单单的。他喜欢的女孩子也是很简单的,他希望对方是个能跟他一起聊天,一起吃饭,能听他讲话的人。

“能碰到也挺难的。”他摇摇头,有些无奈,“这个世上找个人跟你聊天,当然很容易,但是要找到彼此之间共通的这种想法、理念或者是观念,真的是很难的,因为每个人对世俗的观念是不一样的。我们的价值观一定要统一,如果价值观不一样的话,觉得就无法当朋友,更不要说进一步了。”

BQ=《北京青年》周刊

H= 霍建华

希望保留私人的生活

BQ:你平时很少接受采访,宣传做的也不多,是你没有时间,还是你不太愿意跟别人去做一些交流?

H:也没有,我拍完一个戏需要上档的时候还是会出来跟媒体见面,给观众介绍一下我们到底拍的是什么东西,演的是什么东西。只是说不拍戏的时间里,我就曝光比较少。 我希望不要那么长时间地露面,因为你自己要出来说那么多,告诉观众你是怎么样的人,那很奇怪。我希望说,每一部戏、每一个角色出来,都有成长,观众看到我一步步成长,这样跟观众的互动是我比较喜欢的。

BQ:那真的去交流的时候,你是话比较少吗?

H:我话挺多的,所以我就不太愿意出来,出来我怕我话太多大家会烦。以前我比较内向,比较害怕人家拒绝我,别人就觉得我很高傲,其实我是不知道怎么样跟人家找话题,也不喜欢去攀关系啊,套近乎。

BQ:小时候就是这样吗?

H:小时候就是这样,对。所以我现在人际关系一直都不太好。

BQ:听说就是拍完《笑傲江湖》之后,你的这种与人分享的愿望多了一点,也比较健谈了。

H:是比以前好了很多,我也不知道为什么,可能真的是长大了吧。我现在是能分享的尽量分享,但我还是希望很多时间是保留给我自己私人的生活。

BQ:去年的时候,你去一个大学做演讲 , 让我很刮目相看,因为在我以前的印象中,你就是那种有点闷的人。

H:对,我都想不到。我还是蛮想这样去分享,因为那种感觉很特别,但我也没想到我能够去跟学生分享我的生活经历,我的工作经历。因为毕竟我是演员,不像歌手常常曝光在很多人面前的,是很放得开的,我在那么多人面前会紧张。 但是那天我也不知道为什么,接到学校很有诚意的邀约,我想都没想就去了。我只是分享我的演员生涯的一些心路历程和我的一些想法,一些思想,结果没想到效果还不错,大家蛮接受的。

BQ:你还记得你讲了多长时间吗?

H:两个小时吧。因为我基本上没有这种机会,我连跟影迷互动都很少的,更何况是学生。所以我觉得那次是真的蛮有意义的,我希望当我累积更多的人生经验,还有拍戏的一些东西以后,我还可以再有新的东西告诉他们。

BQ:其实有的时候打开自己和别人分享是特别快乐的一件事。

H:是啊,反正平常没有人陪我说话,所以我觉得也是蛮好的一个机会,跟他们分享。

不开微博就混不下去吗?

BQ:你觉得你是典型的摩羯座的性格吗?摩羯座的人一般不太愿意表露自己的情感,然后有的时候也比较孤独。

H:对对对,我天生孤独。朋友不多,知心的就几个而已,很少很少,那种时刻会觉得自己是挺孤独,但是这是个性使然。

BQ:但是没有想到改变一下自己?

H:没有,我很享受这样。在我的观念里面,人本来就是一个人来,一个人走嘛,我觉得人本来就是孤独的,只是说你怎么看待这个孤独。我会喜欢一个人去开车兜风啊。因为我拍戏是跟很多人,每天都是上百号人在一起,然后各种吵啊,乱啊,所以我自己生活当中是蛮简单的,而且我也不喜欢很吵。

BQ:有很多人鼓励你,或劝你来开微博吧。你都拒绝了?

H:有制片方在戏要上档的时候,就会催我开一个微博做宣传,但我觉得拍戏宣传跟微博没有任何关系。我一直没明白这个事情——他们说我都不宣传自己就根本混不下去了,但我不这么想。我不喜欢大家做什么,我就一定要做什么,每个人有他的生存的方法,不一定我就要照着大家这种方法去生存,但是我会有我的生存方法。

BQ:所以这一点挺贴合你特立独行性格的,挺像令狐冲的,崇尚自由,是吧?

H:对,所以我还是蛮坚持的。我觉得很多影迷喜欢我,但是我不见得是要跟他们那么近,每天要去取悦他们,或者是发个自拍照给他们。看我演的戏就好,不需要去到这种程度,我会觉得自己没价值,你懂吗?对。我拍戏给你看就蛮好了,但是我就是希望私生活中我还是保留自己的空间。

BQ:但是据说你跟朋友在一起也挺闹腾的。

H:对,那当然闹腾。有交情的话就是完全的(放开),什么玩笑都开,会把大家逗得很乐。

BQ:一般你进到一个剧组拍戏,是不是经常会听到有演员这么评价,说一开始见到你的时候就会觉得你挺难以接近的,但是拍了一段戏的时候,原来你不是那么不好相处。

H:确实会,我也不知道为什么我会给别人距离感很重的感觉,经过跟我接触的人都会觉得我是蛮好笑的,蛮幽默的,而且我很愿意嘲笑自己取悦别人。

BQ:你很有牺牲精神啊?

H:我觉得很好啊,因为不是很多人敢这么做,大家都是自尊心很强。但我觉得无所谓,如果自嘲一下,让大家情绪缓和一下。比如说我拍戏的时候,有一个年轻演员跟我对戏,他会紧张,那如果我NG 了,他就不会紧张了,因为我都可以NG,为什么他不可以。这样才能放松,我希望大家在片场是很放松的一个状态,所以有的时候我会先放下自己,让大家先缓和起来。

下一世还当演员

BQ:如果给出道这 11 年做一个小结,你会怎么总结一下?

H:懵懵懂懂的,一路都在摸索,到现在还在摸索。11 年了,我觉得我也没有了解这个行业,但是我了解了演员该怎么做出一个基础,还有好多要学习的。也积累了很多经验,碰到任何事情都不会慌,这种经验也是很宝贵的。

BQ:对,其实人生的每一个阶段,我觉得都是不可或缺的,然后也都有这个阶段的特质,你最喜欢哪一个阶段?

H:严格讲的话,我觉得现在这个阶段还蛮好的,因为比较成熟,以前还是比较幼稚一点,做事情比较一意孤行,就是我不太管别人怎么看,怎么想。现在想的东西比较周全一点,但是还是挺自我的,这可能就是我的个性吧,我也很难去改变,所以其实我本身的个性跟银幕上的角色是有蛮大出入的。

BQ:20 岁的那个阶段,需要现在继续保持和发扬的是什么?

H:那时候我什么都不怕,敢于冒险,而且不怕累,不怕流血,不怕流汗,什么都不怕。

BQ:所以那个时候你可以一年拍七部戏。

H:对,我什么都不怕,现在我什么都很怕,这也挺可怕的。

BQ:现在一年让你拍七部戏,你肯定会说 NO 吗?

H:肯定不行,肯定不行,再好的剧本我也拍不了那么多,只能选两三个拍了,但那时候我是不怕苦,不怕累,完全没有自我的空间,有很长一段时间都是心力交瘁。

BQ:是啊,包括像你最初刚入行的时候,还做过一个节目的剧务,所以其实对你现在做制片人,出品人,都很有帮助的。

H:是的,对各个工种都会比较熟悉,也会比较尊重大家,去换位思考。

BQ:如果重新来过的话,你也不想把这一阶段删去吧?

H:我不要删去吧。现在挺好的,不知道以后会怎么样,但是这一世我觉得很好,如果还让我选择的话,我下一世还想再当演员。我觉得真的是添了蛮多色彩的,否则我就会是没有什么目标的一个人。所以拍戏还是让我学到很多,比如我所有的人生的历练,所有懂的东西都是拍戏学来的,而不是从课本上学到的,课本上反而没有赋予我什么,都是我工作以后得到的东西。

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